DevOps Insights for DORA Metrics – Harsh Sabikhi, Octopus Deploy

This is Textron TV. Hey everyone, welcome to another tech strong TV segment. I am happy to be joined by first time on our show harsh Sabiki harshes with octopus and I'm harsh welcome.

Thank you Alan for having me. at our pleasure, so I just want to make sure I got names right company. Everything's right harsh.

Why don't we Start off with a little bit about the company and maybe a little bit about you. Sure. Sounds good.

I'll start off with myself. My name is Harsh Sabiki. I've now been with octopus for two months.

So I'm new to the company but not new to the devops industry. I've actually been in the industry for two decades now prior to octopus. I was with a GitHub for four years and then how she corporate for a almost two years here at octopus.

I'm responsible for our entire Revenue organization. So responsible for our field sales teams customer success Professional Services and support. So we're responsible for the go-to-market strategies and I work for Paul Stovall are founder and CEO.

Absolutely for those that don't know about octopus. We are a continuous deployment a platform. We fit in nicely with your existing devops toolchain or devops stack lots of organizations today use GitHub or get lab for source code management and even their CI Solutions We essentially are an artifact forward company meaning once the artifacts have been built.

They've been tested they're ready to be deployed. And that's when octopus takes over and to us we can deploy the software artifacts and onto a virtual machine kubernetes containers Docker containers or even serverless to us. It doesn't matter.

We have created a solution that can scale with you as well as support the multiple types of deployments that are organization may have Actually, first of all, it's a great pedigree coming from you know, how she Corp Mitchell great job. They've done there and then of course GitHub Octopus, you know, I can't I keep feeling like I'm leaving a word out. Yeah and maybe and maybe some of our audience feels maybe I messed up was it?

Formerly known as octopus deploy or or is and is it just octopus now or what? What's this? It's always been known.

It's always been known as octopus deploy. Our website what it is. Yeah.

com. Paul was able to dial it to to win that that domain name. So that's a tough one.

com. So it is so many of you out here. Look we have obviously a big devops audience.

Right many of you may know octopus is octopus deploy, of course, but it is octopus and you know, it's a company though. This is harshest first time it's company. You've probably at some point run into in the devops space may think you know what it is such a but we're here to find out more on that.

So harsh let's let's jump in then, you know clearly you know for a long time, no one said see I without CD try to see i c d c i c d c i c d get ups and some of these other newer kind of things as well as some of the original CI tools like Jenkins. Let's say that where You know use for CD getting a little longer in the tooth. We finally in the last let's say two years year and a half.

I've started to see people talk about e Separate it apart. That's right from CI. It's no longer you see eye seating.

That's right. And and so, you know, it seems to be this is where octopus that's where your bread and butter is right you involved in the CD aspect of things. But things are constantly changing and evolving.

If you don't mind would and I know I'll put you on the spot but let's get a little bit of an update. What what's octopus pick up to around this old deployment? Yeah.

Absolutely. Lots been there's been Lots going on. For those of you that know about octopus deploy.

It was founded 10 years ago Paulo boots dropped the company for eight years himself and we were traditionally known as the dotnet deployment shop and that's what Paul Williams before right and that's how we got our name out there. But now more recently I would say Ellen our strategies actually very similar to hashicorps and hence why I'm here now, we're trying to be the neutral vendor that can take artifacts from which wherever the repositories are the GitHub response and then push it to AWS Azure gcp on Prem you name it. So we're trying to be that neutral lender and then what we've been doing to support this rapid growth Of technologies that are coming out there is most recently we released a few new features one is configus code.

So everyone knows about terraform hashicorps terraform and that's infrastructure's code. We've extended that and we have forked HCL into what's called ocl octopus config language. So now you can control your deployments via configuration as code.

So that's one major change of what we're also doing is helping organizations with tying back when they need to do a hot fix or patch release or need to do a just a regular deployment, but they need the traceability back to the ticket or the change management. Like why are we making this change we have now First costume Integrations with service now and jira help desk. So now you can trace it back all the way to the servicenow ticket that initiative that that change that code configuration change the artifact.

I need to be deployed and you've got that traceability. 3 release that was released in September. We released door support for Dora metrics and these metrics allow you to measure how successful your deployments are and then the four main metrics we support are deployment frequency deployment lead time deployment failure rate and mean time to recovery.

Those are the four key ones. And those are that's part of our insights package that is now bundled into the Enterprise Edition of our product and you've got a nice dashboard that you can start to measure companies devops performance. I love that I loved a lot of it's actually auctions is really good.

Yeah stuff, you know. as we look at Where CD is going? Yeah, where it is where it's going.

Yes, I think. Here today's we want to measure it's always been a trend tonight. We want to measure as much as we can right but to be able to get that.

kind of where did this come from? How did this get here? Kind of you know Trail?

Yeah. And then building into a tool like jira, and this kind of thing that that's huge. That's a big big piece of it.

The other thing is is quite frankly we're seeing like we see in a lot of tech a lot of consolidation where we have these sort of ecosystems that are being built up right you use GitHub you use a sure you you know, you're in that Microsoft world you use this and you're in AWS or Google or what have you No one wants to get locked in everyone wants you know, and so it's important to have sort of an independent. Deployment solution that look no matter where you want to deploy. It's pretty consistent across the board that was easier said than done.

But yeah, that's your problem. Right and also Allen, I think it's all about standardization. So companies today to your point.

We live in a multi-cloud world. There's organizations out there that have Azure that have gcp and AWS and you're right those Cloud providers have their own diploment Solutions. But if you're a CIO or CTO, do you want your teams utilizing three different tools to deploy or standardize on one from and then deploy to all the cloud providers?

That's really the the angle that we're trying to take. and then of course harshalassing, I not necessarily the last thing but another thing I wanted to just kind of quiz you on this, you know, look we're seeing this Cloud native stack become the de facto standard. Yes right through no matter where you're deploying.

Yeah on Prem bare metal Cloud, whatever right? It's kubernetes and and all that comes with that. I wanted to kind of get a flavor.

How is that kind of playing into the octopus? A roadmap and functionality. Yeah it that's a really good question.

We have made a decision that we're going to be the deployment solution for organizations today as well as as their digital transformation takes them to a serverless or you know to containers and serverless applications. We know and we've done some some analysis that organizations today are still not 100% containerize nor will their applications be containerized. So there's always going to be a hybrid world at the same time, you know, if you take a bank for example, and they're coming up with a digital solutions that are going to be serverless.

1% of that right? It's very small fraction of it. However, we know that that's the future because serverless today is what containers was five years ago.

So we're staying ahead of that curve and building in support to Serverless today. So we're keeping up with that Trend and helping our customers as they mature their deployment and as they go to these different Technologies, we're there to support them every step of the way. Absolutely, you know it's a wonderful thing.

I always call it the devops bubble that I live in right? We're of course. Everyone's on serverless.

Of course, they're all on kubernetes. Of course, they're all using the latest and greatest stuff. And of course we all live in a green field where we start with our nice clean fresh piece of paper.

All right, every time we wanted to do an application, but of course the world doesn't really work like that. Yeah, and and sometimes we need to remind ourselves that You know, there's a big world out there and a lot of them are just they're just wrapping their heads around devops organizations are just nothing and shifting into VMS so they can at least move off of their data centers. That's absolutely and they've been doing that since 2005 here.

We are 2022 and it's still probably a predominant, you know kind of action. so You know, I think sometimes we need to remind ourselves. That you know where that is in the world harsh for people who you mentioned before the domain is octopus calm.

Yes. What's the best way to do engage with the company to get it maybe a chance to take a look at product Yeah Yeah, we actually just revamped our our website. There's a lot more case studies on there and more Enterprise focused features on there.

com and then there's all always contact sales on there or you can always see email me directly as well. But that is the best way we have support. So we whenever somebody contacts us through the website we get a zendes ticket populated and the entire company looks at it and then our team's triage that and it'll be people's requests will be filtered to the right or right departments within octopus.

I love it. Hey, man, why don't you make it a point to come back on keep us posted absolutely an octopus. We'd love to hear what's going on octopus deployed as many of you may know them harsh.

Thanks for being on Tech strong. No problem. That's here one final comment.

I'm actually devops Enterprise Summit here in Las Vegas. So yeah right now I'm there right now. I'm in love right now.

So yeah, if you're at devops Central by Summit, please drop by Booth to 11, so And give us a report from there. How's it been? I would love it's kicking off today.

So I got in. Oh, yeah, today's day one. Yeah.

Got it. Yeah. No we didn't.

Well, we're gonna be a cute car next week. But yeah, so I'm just getting back into this whole traveling thing. Yeah.

But anyway that hey have a great conference. Say hello and come back and see us. Awesome.

Thank you for having me Allen. See you my pleasure.